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		<title>By: Robert S. Siegel</title>
		<link>http://mindyourowndamnbusinesspolitics.com/wordpress/2010/02/26/health-care-summit-accomplishment/comment-page-1/#comment-4398</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert S. Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True</description>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://mindyourowndamnbusinesspolitics.com/wordpress/2010/02/26/health-care-summit-accomplishment/comment-page-1/#comment-4397</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually not seen the Republicans to be interested in smaller government.  They just target welfare to big business, defense, and (like Deams) themselves.  And the Bush administration grew entitlement spending with the Medicare drug benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually not seen the Republicans to be interested in smaller government.  They just target welfare to big business, defense, and (like Deams) themselves.  And the Bush administration grew entitlement spending with the Medicare drug benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Shinequa in Detroit</title>
		<link>http://mindyourowndamnbusinesspolitics.com/wordpress/2010/02/26/health-care-summit-accomplishment/comment-page-1/#comment-4360</link>
		<dc:creator>Shinequa in Detroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cypress5
Wow...another MMfA  shithead to add to the hairdresser list...No new copy/paste today?
What there to argue with fools about?
 We gave up long ago...Now it&#039;s just make fun o&#039; yous and your 20 screen names...
We know you to be one dummy, &#039;cause there can&#039;t be 20 different dim bulbs that reads this stupid blog...But maybe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cypress5<br />
Wow&#8230;another MMfA  shithead to add to the hairdresser list&#8230;No new copy/paste today?<br />
What there to argue with fools about?<br />
 We gave up long ago&#8230;Now it&#8217;s just make fun o&#8217; yous and your 20 screen names&#8230;<br />
We know you to be one dummy, &#8217;cause there can&#8217;t be 20 different dim bulbs that reads this stupid blog&#8230;But maybe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cypress5</title>
		<link>http://mindyourowndamnbusinesspolitics.com/wordpress/2010/02/26/health-care-summit-accomplishment/comment-page-1/#comment-4359</link>
		<dc:creator>Cypress5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read about Ryan also.  There is an interview of him on this subject on the Washington Post site by Ezra Klein who is one of the Post reporters covering the story in detail.  This is an interesting blog apart from a few ignorant posts by some dittohead who has twenty different screen names and just talks trash about Obama with nothing else to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read about Ryan also.  There is an interview of him on this subject on the Washington Post site by Ezra Klein who is one of the Post reporters covering the story in detail.  This is an interesting blog apart from a few ignorant posts by some dittohead who has twenty different screen names and just talks trash about Obama with nothing else to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Shinequa in Detroit</title>
		<link>http://mindyourowndamnbusinesspolitics.com/wordpress/2010/02/26/health-care-summit-accomplishment/comment-page-1/#comment-4358</link>
		<dc:creator>Shinequa in Detroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DimBulbHenri/DimmerBulb Hesh/Dimmist of  all Bulbs Paul/Collinswoodie and all other Econ101 Illiterate hairdressers

Was you idiots watchin&#039; the same healthcare summit we here in Detroit was watchin yesterday? Cause  what we saw, was a clueless emptysuit with bug ears and a bigger f**kin&#039; ego make a fool o&#039; his self......
This dumbass don&#039;t know when to quit...Nobody wants what this fool be sellin&#039;... Simple as that...
This healthcare meetin, put on by the ONE, was nothin&#039; but a show where the Bamster would look smart and he  thinkin&#039; he be makin&#039; the Repubs look stupid...
Well it did NOT turn out the way you hairdressers would have liked... The Repubs looked like the adults they was and MrO looked like a petchulant little crybaby in way over his fat head...
I keeps tellin you fools, no workin&#039; American wit any sense, gonna go for this crapola Obamba be peddelin&#039;...
This fool is a loser and come Nov, his 79 seat majority will be gone baby, gone...
Makin&#039; him mo&#039; impotant (dickless) then he be now...Kinda like you fools...Not an ounce o&#039; testerone among you all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DimBulbHenri/DimmerBulb Hesh/Dimmist of  all Bulbs Paul/Collinswoodie and all other Econ101 Illiterate hairdressers</p>
<p>Was you idiots watchin&#8217; the same healthcare summit we here in Detroit was watchin yesterday? Cause  what we saw, was a clueless emptysuit with bug ears and a bigger f**kin&#8217; ego make a fool o&#8217; his self&#8230;&#8230;<br />
This dumbass don&#8217;t know when to quit&#8230;Nobody wants what this fool be sellin&#8217;&#8230; Simple as that&#8230;<br />
This healthcare meetin, put on by the ONE, was nothin&#8217; but a show where the Bamster would look smart and he  thinkin&#8217; he be makin&#8217; the Repubs look stupid&#8230;<br />
Well it did NOT turn out the way you hairdressers would have liked&#8230; The Repubs looked like the adults they was and MrO looked like a petchulant little crybaby in way over his fat head&#8230;<br />
I keeps tellin you fools, no workin&#8217; American wit any sense, gonna go for this crapola Obamba be peddelin&#8217;&#8230;<br />
This fool is a loser and come Nov, his 79 seat majority will be gone baby, gone&#8230;<br />
Makin&#8217; him mo&#8217; impotant (dickless) then he be now&#8230;Kinda like you fools&#8230;Not an ounce o&#8217; testerone among you all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lenotre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenotre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the Republicans singled out for praise by the media yesterday due to his expertise on this issue is Rep. Paul Ryan.

Ryan is the ranking member on the House Budget Committee and has proposed his own comprehensive reform plan.  As far as I know he is the only Republican who has done this.

His plan proposes to control the cost of Medicare by eliminating the program for everyone now under 55.  Instead, when those now under 55 reach 65 each person will get an annual voucher that can be used to buy private health insurance.  If the voucher is enough to buy all the coverage a person needs, he is okay.  If it is not enough, he is not.  I don&#039;t think anyone mentioned this at the summit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the Republicans singled out for praise by the media yesterday due to his expertise on this issue is Rep. Paul Ryan.</p>
<p>Ryan is the ranking member on the House Budget Committee and has proposed his own comprehensive reform plan.  As far as I know he is the only Republican who has done this.</p>
<p>His plan proposes to control the cost of Medicare by eliminating the program for everyone now under 55.  Instead, when those now under 55 reach 65 each person will get an annual voucher that can be used to buy private health insurance.  If the voucher is enough to buy all the coverage a person needs, he is okay.  If it is not enough, he is not.  I don&#8217;t think anyone mentioned this at the summit.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Crane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Crane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add that it&#039;s ridiculous to use the word &quot;bribe&quot; in this context.  

The Senate was created by the Founders to give lower population states (like Nebraska) more clout in Congress.  Giving each state, regardless of population, an equal number of votes in the Senate is meant to insure that the smaller states can block legislation they don&#039;t like unless there is something in it for them.  Pretending that this tactic is something new, or something Republicans have not used many times in the past to benefit their states, is very, very dishonest.  

Why did Senator Shelby recently put a hold on 70 of Obama&#039;s nominees, for example?  Because he wanted a guarantee that certain defense expenditures would be made in his state of Alabama.  Why are conservatives not yelling at him about this?  Let&#039;s not be hypocrites, shall we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add that it&#8217;s ridiculous to use the word &#8220;bribe&#8221; in this context.  </p>
<p>The Senate was created by the Founders to give lower population states (like Nebraska) more clout in Congress.  Giving each state, regardless of population, an equal number of votes in the Senate is meant to insure that the smaller states can block legislation they don&#8217;t like unless there is something in it for them.  Pretending that this tactic is something new, or something Republicans have not used many times in the past to benefit their states, is very, very dishonest.  </p>
<p>Why did Senator Shelby recently put a hold on 70 of Obama&#8217;s nominees, for example?  Because he wanted a guarantee that certain defense expenditures would be made in his state of Alabama.  Why are conservatives not yelling at him about this?  Let&#8217;s not be hypocrites, shall we?</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Crane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Crane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, his name is Senator Max Baucus.  Baucus spent months last year negotiating a bill with Republican members of his committee, including Grassley and Enzi.  Grassley mentioned those negotiations when he spoke during the summit yesterday.  Other Republicans like to pretend those talks never happened, because only by pretending that can they claim there has been no effort to reach a bipartisan compromise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, his name is Senator Max Baucus.  Baucus spent months last year negotiating a bill with Republican members of his committee, including Grassley and Enzi.  Grassley mentioned those negotiations when he spoke during the summit yesterday.  Other Republicans like to pretend those talks never happened, because only by pretending that can they claim there has been no effort to reach a bipartisan compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: Collinwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collinwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we all understand the real reasons Republicans oppose Obama&#039;s plan.  

They don&#039;t want a health care bill to pass not because they think reform won&#039;t work but because they think it might work.

The last thing Republicans want is the creation of another entitlement program that eats up a huge amount of tax revenue and is also popular with voters, like Social Security and Medicare.  The more programs like that are created, the harder it becomes for them to talk about smaller government and lower taxes.

Bush was able to get major tax cuts passed without cutting spending on popular programs because America was still able to borrow enough money at low rates of interest to make up the difference and keep spending.  But at some point the ability to borrow more and more at low rates comes to an end.  What then?

If there is no room left to cut taxes because tax cuts mean cuts in popular programs, what do the Republicans have left to talk about?  That is what they&#039;re afraid of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we all understand the real reasons Republicans oppose Obama&#8217;s plan.  </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want a health care bill to pass not because they think reform won&#8217;t work but because they think it might work.</p>
<p>The last thing Republicans want is the creation of another entitlement program that eats up a huge amount of tax revenue and is also popular with voters, like Social Security and Medicare.  The more programs like that are created, the harder it becomes for them to talk about smaller government and lower taxes.</p>
<p>Bush was able to get major tax cuts passed without cutting spending on popular programs because America was still able to borrow enough money at low rates of interest to make up the difference and keep spending.  But at some point the ability to borrow more and more at low rates comes to an end.  What then?</p>
<p>If there is no room left to cut taxes because tax cuts mean cuts in popular programs, what do the Republicans have left to talk about?  That is what they&#8217;re afraid of.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The normal process of legislative negotiation and compromise is that the party that has proposed a bill asks members of the other party, “What changes can we make to this bill that would get you to vote for it?” &quot;

Was I asleep, or could you please name the Democrat who asked this question at any point during the past year? Or was the question just framed differently such as &quot;What will it take to get you to vote for it?&quot;  Asking &quot;what will it take&quot; and &quot;what changes can we make&quot; are not the same thing. &quot;What will it take&quot; usually takes the form of a bribe as we saw with Nebraska and Louisiana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The normal process of legislative negotiation and compromise is that the party that has proposed a bill asks members of the other party, “What changes can we make to this bill that would get you to vote for it?” &#8221;</p>
<p>Was I asleep, or could you please name the Democrat who asked this question at any point during the past year? Or was the question just framed differently such as &#8220;What will it take to get you to vote for it?&#8221;  Asking &#8220;what will it take&#8221; and &#8220;what changes can we make&#8221; are not the same thing. &#8220;What will it take&#8221; usually takes the form of a bribe as we saw with Nebraska and Louisiana.</p>
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